{"id":13323,"date":"2016-06-19T17:26:46","date_gmt":"2016-06-19T16:26:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/?p=13323"},"modified":"2025-02-19T13:19:52","modified_gmt":"2025-02-19T12:19:52","slug":"marissa-nadler-blue-interview-in-a-raincoat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/marissa-nadler-blue-interview-in-a-raincoat\/","title":{"rendered":"Marissa Nadler &#8212; Blue interview in a raincoat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"#Accordion-1\">Version Fran\u00e7aise<\/a> | <a href=\"#Accordion-2\">English Version<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"su-accordion su-u-trim\">\n<div class=\"su-spoiler su-spoiler-style-default su-spoiler-icon-arrow\" data-anchor=\"Accordion-1\" data-scroll-offset=\"0\" data-anchor-in-url=\"no\"><div class=\"su-spoiler-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\"><span class=\"su-spoiler-icon\"><\/span>Version Fran\u00e7aise<\/div><div class=\"su-spoiler-content su-u-clearfix su-u-trim\">\n<em>Elle le rappelle lors de cette interview : sa reprise de \u00ab Famous blue raincoat \u00bb, c\u2019\u00e9tait il y a dix ans ! J\u2019ai beau avoir conscience que Marissa Nadler a fait du chemin depuis, poursuivant son exploration sonore dans des contr\u00e9es goth folk de plus en plus \u00e9tranges et v\u00e9n\u00e9neuses, je reste hant\u00e9e par sa version onirique et a\u00e9rienne de l\u2019une des plus belles chansons de Leonard Cohen. Pass\u00e9e la bouleversante d\u00e9couverte, par le truchement de cette reprise, de ses trois premiers opus, je me suis par la suite, je l\u2019avoue, un peu lass\u00e9e des arp\u00e8ges fantomatiques de cette prolifique et talentueuse songwriteuse am\u00e9ricaine. Jusqu\u2019\u00e0 ce qu\u2019elle publie il y a deux ans, \u00ab July \u00bb, dont la noirceur introspective et lumineuse m\u2019a captiv\u00e9e. C\u2019est \u00e0 l\u2019occasion de la sortie de son huiti\u00e8me album, \u00ab Strangers \u00bb, que nous avons \u00e9chang\u00e9 avec Marissa Nadler autour de son univers musical entre spleen et ideal.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Votre nouvel album s\u2019intitule \u00ab Strangers \u00bb : qui<\/strong> <strong>sont ces \u00e9trangers ? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ces \u00ab Strangers \u00bb ne sont pas des personnes concr\u00e8tes. Ce titre \u00e9voque en fait l\u2019ensemble des th\u00e8mes abord\u00e9s dans mes chansons, notamment le sentiment d\u2019\u00eatre \u00e9tranger \u00e0 soi-m\u00eame, \u00e0 distance de soi et des autres.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"post-13336 media-13336\" class=\"align-none\">\n<div style=\"width: 760px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/marissa-nadler-ebru-yildiz.jpg\" alt=\"Marissa nadler \u00a9 Ebru Yildiz\" width=\"750\" height=\"479\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Marissa nadler \u00a9 Ebru Yildiz<\/p><\/div><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Dans les chansons de \u00ab Strangers \u00bb, vous parlez de solitude, de d\u00e9sespoir, d\u2019amours d\u00e9\u00e7us\u2026 Il plane comme une ambiance de fin d\u2019un monde. Que disent de vous ces th\u00e8mes tr\u00e8s sombres qui habitent souvent vos textes et qui font \u00e9cho \u00e9galement \u00e0 la pochette de votre nouveau disque ? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ce que vous dites est juste. Mais les titres de \u00ab Stangers \u00bb parlent \u00e9galement de la beaut\u00e9 de l\u2019amour \u00e9ternel et de la perception de la nature qui nous entoure. Il ne faut pas se focaliser uniquement sur la noirceur de ces chansons, qui sont aussi l\u00e9g\u00e8res et pleines d\u2019espoir. Je ne veux pas cataloguer mon \u00e9criture de fa\u00e7on aussi monochromatique.<\/p>\n<p>C\u2019est vrai que je suis attir\u00e9e par la face cach\u00e9e et sombre de la condition humaine. Mais je pense que c\u2019est dans cette exploration que se trouve la v\u00e9ritable beaut\u00e9 de l\u2019humanit\u00e9. Il y a de la beaut\u00e9 dans l\u2019imperfection Et cette beaut\u00e9 est plus fascinante pour moi que la fa\u00e7ade lisse et maquill\u00e9e de notre monde moderne<\/p>\n<div class=\"fitvids-video\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"660\" height=\"371\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/OEycvfYf_y0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><strong>En quoi Katy, Diane et Janie, dont vous contez les histoires \u00e0 travers cet album, sont-elles un peu vous ? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pour r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 votre question, elles ne sont moi en aucune fa\u00e7on. Katy et Janie sont toutes deux de vraies personnes et des amies. <strong>\u00ab <\/strong>Katie I know<strong> \u00bb <\/strong>est notamment une chanson racontant la dissolution d\u2019une longue amiti\u00e9. \u00ab Shadow Show Diane \u00bb est le nom que j\u2019ai donn\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019ombre d\u2019une femme \u00e0 la fen\u00eatre que l\u2019on peut voir depuis mon porche. Dans les chansons de <strong>\u00ab <\/strong>Strangers <strong>\u00bb <\/strong>je ne parle vraiment de moi que lorsque j\u2019use de la premi\u00e8re personne.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Apr\u00e8s avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e0 vos c\u00f4t\u00e9s pour la production \u00ab July \u00bb, Randall Dunn a de nouveau travaill\u00e9 avec vous sur \u00ab Strangers \u00bb : qu\u2019est-ce qu\u2019apporte Randall Dunn \u00e0 votre univers musical ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Je m\u2019isole lorsque j\u2019\u00e9cris mes albums. Je ne sors pas beaucoup pour parler \u00e0 des gens ou \u00e0 d\u2019autres musiciens. Randall est un grand cr\u00e9ateur d\u2019ambiance et il travaille aussi avec un groupe ph\u00e9nom\u00e9nal de musiciens avec lesquels j\u2019ai eu la chance de travailler &#8212; Milky Burgess, Steve Moore, Eyvind Kang, Steve Nistor, Janel Leppin, Brad Mowen, Jonas Haskins, Jay Kardong, la liste n\u2019est pas exhaustive -, et je n\u2019aurais pas rencontr\u00e9 toutes ces personnes sans Randall. Randall m\u2019a aussi encourag\u00e9e \u00e0 d\u00e9velopper ma palette musicale. Il m\u2019incite \u00e0 sans cesse \u00e9voluer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Edgard Poe est-il toujours pour vous aujourd\u2019hui une source d\u2019inspiration ? Qu\u2019est-ce qui, de mani\u00e8re g\u00e9n\u00e9rale vous inspire ? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pour \u00eatre honn\u00eate, pas vraiment. J\u2019adore son \u0153uvre mais je ne le consid\u00e8re pas comme une source d\u2019aspiration actuelle pour moi. L\u2019actualit\u00e9, mes relations personnelles, mon propre monde interne tendent \u00e0 \u00eatre les meilleures muses que je puisse avoir.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vous avez repris ces derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es \u00ab Famous blue Raincoat \u00bb et<\/strong> <strong>\u00ab Seems so long ago, Nancy<\/strong> <strong> de L.Cohen ainsi que \u00ab Pitseleh \u00bb d\u2019Elliott Smith : que repr\u00e9sentent pour vous ces deux artistes, ces trois chansons ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Juste pour pr\u00e9ciser les choses, j\u2019ai repris \u00ab Famous Blue Raincoat \u00bb il y a dix ans sur l\u2019album \u00ab Songs III : Bird on The Water \u00bb. Cohen a \u00e9t\u00e9 une grande source d\u2019inspiration pour moi tout au long de ces ann\u00e9es. Je suis aussi une grande fan d\u2019Elliot Smith et sa musique a une profonde influence sur moi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pouvez-vous nous parler du cheminement musical que vous avez fait depuis July ? Et depuis vos d\u00e9buts ? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pour \u00eatre honn\u00eate, j\u2019ai juste gard\u00e9 la t\u00eate froide et ai continu\u00e9 \u00e0 essayer d\u2019\u00e9crire les meilleures chansons possibles, album apr\u00e8s album. J\u2019esp\u00e8re toujours que chaque album est meilleur que le pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent. C\u2019est l\u2019espoir de la majorit\u00e9 des artistes, je pense. J\u2019ai \u00e9volu\u00e9 de fa\u00e7on organique, ce n\u2019est pas quelque chose que j\u2019ai orchestr\u00e9 consciemment. J\u2019ai toujours eu \u00e0 c\u0153ur d\u2019\u00eatre fid\u00e8le \u00e0 moi-m\u00eame dans mon approche de la musique et de l\u2019art. J\u2019\u00e9cris des chansons que les gens puissent ressentir profond\u00e9ment et je t\u00e2che de rester aussi pure et sinc\u00e8re que possible au sein de cette foutue industrie de la musique. Ce n\u2019est pas toujours facile mais tout ce qui compte, c\u2019est que je puisse d\u00e9fendre mon travail.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vous avez con\u00e7u le clip de votre chanson \u00ab All the Colors Of the Dark \u00bb : en quoi la r\u00e9alisation de clips voire de films est une d\u00e9marche artistique qui vous anime et allez-vous la renouveler ? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>J\u2019ai une formation en art assez large, mais je suis relativement nouvelle dans l\u2019animation en stop-motion. J\u2019ai commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 en faire depuis seulement quelques ann\u00e9es et j\u2019ai vraiment ador\u00e9 ce processus. Cela prend du temps mais c\u2019est vraiment magique et inspirant. J\u2019ai l\u2019intention de continuer \u00e0 faire des vid\u00e9os et j\u2019esp\u00e8re \u00eatre de plus en plus performante au fur et \u00e0 mesure des r\u00e9alisations. Je travaille \u00e9galement \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9laboration du clip d\u2019animation de \u00ab Janie in Love \u00bb et j\u2019esp\u00e8re \u00e0 l\u2019avenir en faire de plus en plus.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fitvids-video\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"660\" height=\"371\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/JWO7Vg7wpyU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><strong>Marissa Nadler \u2013 Strangers \u2013 Bella Union \/ PIAS &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marissanadler.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">www.marissanadler.com<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Merci \u00e0 Laure Gerard d\u2019avoir relu avec attention ma traduction.<\/em><br \/>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"su-spoiler su-spoiler-style-default su-spoiler-icon-arrow su-spoiler-closed\" data-anchor=\"Accordion-2\" data-scroll-offset=\"0\" data-anchor-in-url=\"no\"><div class=\"su-spoiler-title\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\"><span class=\"su-spoiler-icon\"><\/span>English Version<\/div><div class=\"su-spoiler-content su-u-clearfix su-u-trim\">\n<p><em>&#171;Famous Blue Raincoat&#187; was ten years ago now and even if I know Marissa has developped since her own style, experimenting dark and ghostly atmospheres, I&#8217;m still haunted by her cover version of Leonard Cohen. It&#8217;s only two years ago that I returned to Marissa&#8217;s beautiful work with July. Now, Strangers, her 8th album so far, is released. The perfect occasion to talk with this talented and unique songwriter.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Your new record is called \u00ab\u00a0Strangers\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0: who are these strangers\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The album on certain levels explores the feeling of being estranged from my former self, as well as from other people. So, the Strangers aren\u2019t concrete people. The album title comes from the themes explored within the songs themselves.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In \u00ab\u00a0Strangers\u00a0\u00bb songs, you\u2019re talking about loneliness, hopelessness, failed relationships\u2026 We can feel an end of the world atmosphere. What do these very dark subjects (that can be encountered in your texts and which are reflected in your album art) tell about you\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>All of this is true. But, the songs in Strangers also deal with the beauty of everlasting love and of an appreciation of our natural world. To focus on only the darkness in the songs overlooks the lightness and hope within them. I refuse to pigeonhole myself as writing songs that are so singularly monochromatic.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, it\u2019s true that I\u2019m drawn to the unglamorous underbelly of the human condition. But, within that exploration is where I think the true beauty of humanity lies. There is beauty in imperfection, and that beauty is far more compelling to me than the airbrushed and glossed over view of our modern world.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In what way are Katy, Diane and Janie whose stories you tell throughout this album, a little bit you\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>They are in no ways me, to answer your question. Katy and Janie are both real people and are friends of mine. Katy I know is a narrative song dealing with the dissolution of a long friendship. In the songs on Strangers, when I use the first person narrative, I\u2019m truly speaking about myself. Shadow Show Diane is a name that I made up for the shadow of a woman in the window across from my porch.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randall Dunn had been at your side for \u00ab\u00a0July\u00a0\u00bb\u2019s production and worked again with you on \u00ab\u00a0Strangers\u00a0\u00bb. What does Randall Dunn bring to your musical universe\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I am reclusive when I write albums. I don\u2019t get out a lot to talk to people or other musicians. Randall is a great master of atmosphere, and he also works with a phenomenal group of players that I\u2019ve been lucky to work with &#8212; Milky Burgess, Steve Moore, Eyvind Kang, Steve Nistor, Janel Leppin, Brad Mowen, Jonas Haskins, Jay Kardong- the list goes on and on but I wouldn\u2019t have met these people if it weren\u2019t for Randall. Randall also has challenged me to expand my musical pallette. He challenges me to continue to evolve.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is Edgard Poe still a source of inspiration for you\u00a0? What inspires you in general ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No, not really, to be honest. I love his work but I wouldn\u2019t call that work a current source of inspiration for me. The headlines of today\u2019s news stories, personal relationship, and my own internal world tend to be the best muses that I have.<br \/>\n<strong>Your covered last years \u00ab\u00a0Famous blue Raincoat\u00a0\u00bband \u00ab\u00a0Seems so long ago, Nancy\u00a0\u00bb from L.Cohen and \u00ab\u00a0Pitseleh\u00a0\u00bb from Elliott Smith\u00a0: what do these two musicians, these three songs\u00a0represent for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Just to be accurate, I covered Famous Blue Raincoat ten years ago on the album Songs III: Bird on The Water. Cohen has been a big source of inspiration for me throughout the years. I am also a big Elliot Smith fan and his music had a profound influence on me as well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can you tell me about the personal musical journey you have done since \u00ab\u00a0July\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0? And since your musical debut\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To be honest, I just keep my head down and continue to try to write the best songs that I can, album after album. I hope each one is better than the next. That\u2019s the hope of most artists, I think. My evolution has happened organically, and hasn\u2019t been something I have consciously set out to do. At the core of my approach to music and art has always been to remain true to myself. I write songs that I want people to feel from. I try to stay as pure as I can throughout this bullshit industry. It\u2019s not always easy but I think if I can stand behind my work then nothing else matters.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You have directed the video of \u00ab\u00a0All The Colors Of The Dark\u00a0\u00bb by yourself\u00a0: in what way does this artistic approach inspire you and are your going to make others videos or perhaps movies\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I have an extensive fine art background, but am relatively new to stop-motion animation. I began doing that a few years ago and very much enjoy the process. It\u2019s time consuming but I find it pretty magical and meditative. I have every intention of continuing to animate and make videos and I hope to get better with each one as well. I\u2019m currently working on an animated video for Janie in Love and hope to make lots more in the future.<br \/>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Version Fran\u00e7aise | English Version<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":13326,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,329],"tags":[1739,367,1588,1830,1831,1730,79,235],"translation":{"provider":"WPGlobus","version":"3.0.2","language":"ru","enabled_languages":["fr","ru"],"languages":{"fr":{"title":true,"content":true,"excerpt":false},"ru":{"title":false,"content":false,"excerpt":false}}},"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13323"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13323"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13323\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":19096,"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13323\/revisions\/19096"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/13326"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13323"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13323"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.horsdoeuvre.fr\/ru\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13323"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}